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  • #10101
    HelenGHelenG
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    There was an article in our newspaper this morning about showerheads harboring NTM. Of course, we all have heard this before, but this was quite lengthy and I think it shows that the word is getting out, however slow, so maybe some progress is being made of making others aware of it.

    My son also sent me this this morning:

    Are You Showering in Dangerous Germs?
    CBS News – ?1 hour ago?

    Dr. Jennifer Ashton said metal shower heads, like this one, are better for avoiding bateria than plastic shower heads. (CBS) Explore health issues including AIDS, cancer and antibiotics.

    Your shower may be blasting you with germs: study Reuters

    Study: Showerheads may deliver blast of bacteria CNN

    WebMD – The Money Times – BBC News – GenomeWeb Daily News

    all 488 news articles

    #10102
    Bastephensbastephens
    Member

    Helen, there was also a brief report on my local ABC news today. It was very short and did not give much information, did not mention what the bacteria was and did not say anything about keeping your water heater above 140 degrees. Also they implied that one didn’t have to be concerned about it, unless you have HIV or cystic fibrosis, which of course is not true because I have neither. I was disappointed with the report. It was one of those strories that the preview ahead of time “Is YOur shower making you sick” then make you wait towards the end of the news. I feel like writing them regarding the lack of info and inaccuracies. Barbara

    #10103
    Sarahmsarahm
    Member

    I heard the same report today on one of the news networks (maybe CNN?) which named mycobacteria avium, except they said microbacteria avium, and our local news had a short blurb about it without naming the bacteria or illness.

    #10104
    Ladybugladybug
    Member

    The tv interviews were inadequate, IMO. And those with science backgrounds realize how preliminary this is – only a minuscule number of showerheads have been examined so this seems a giant extrapolation, it does nothing to show that this exposure is any more likely than other environmental situations to infect the non-immuno compromised, which was not delineated at all, since the mycos are such ubiquitous dudes.Just how can the incidence be so low if showering is so common? and immuno-competent individuals contract the diseases. It appears that a pre-existing set of circumstances must be present before there is risk. Our previous pulmonary history may be more determinant than the amount of mycos in the water system.

    However this may spark research in other directions, that may be helpful.

    Can anyone tell me at what temperature does aerosolizing occur – time to google.

    ladybug

    #10105
    Wxmenwxmen
    Member

    Formation of aerosols is independent of temperature.

    George

    #10106
    Ladybugladybug
    Member

    George – what are the determining factors in aerosolizing to where the droplets are mixed wiith air to the point where breathing them introduces them into the lungs. I am finding quite a lot to read by googling but still not specific to the conversion to a breathable product.

    From my personal experience, I do know that those huge fountain type aerators placed in ponds/lakes on golf courses are another possiblity of producing aerosolized water.

    ladybug

    #10107
    Jad0928jad0928
    Participant

    How can we find out about fountains on golf courses? I live in active 55+ community and I have a pond and fountain behind my home. I also have MAC. I walk the golf course (18 holes) and there are numerous fountains and ponds. I am currently in remission, 18 months post surgery and off drugs (thank God). I still have persistent dry cough which sounds bronchial but that is all.

    Thanks for any help you can provide.

    Jeanne in Delaware

    #10108
    Wxmenwxmen
    Member

    Ladybug, I’m sorry but somehow I missed your post.

    The amount of aerosol droplets is dependent on the nozzle size and water pressure. The droplets are microscopic or nearly so and will enter the lungs quite easily. Since water is a common source of the bacteria there is no need for the droplets to even come in contact with air.

    George

    #10109
    Birderbirder
    Member

    Hey everyone, I went to Home Depot and could not find the recomended all metal shower heads that were mentioned in the NTM broadcasts as being better. All I could find were partial metal with mostly plastic parts. I stopped this morning at Lowes and looked there and could not find any all metal ones there either. The manager told me they do not have all metal shower heads, there is going to be some plastic in them no matter what. So, I mentioned well, what I will do it buy the cheapest one I can find and change them twice a year or maybe even more. He directed me to a clearance table where there were 25 dollar shower heads marked down to 6 dollars. After a short conversation with him about what this was all about and hearing a condensed version of my story fighting this disease, he further marked them down to 4 dollars and I bought 5 of them. I now have enough for 2 1/2 years. My point of this email is for those of us who need to change our shower heads frequently, talk to a store manager and tell them why and maybe they can get you a great deal or at least give you a discount or clearance item. Meanwhile, if anyone finds an all-metal shower head, can you post where you found it.

    #10110
    HelenGHelenG
    Member

    Thanks for your post. I just thought if they were metal on the outside, they were all metal. I didn’t know that one that is metal on the outside could have plastic parts. Good to know when I go looking.

    #10111
    Ladyblueladyblue
    Member

    Thanks for the shower headsup! Until I find a replacement I have been covering mine wirh a plastic bag that has peroxide in it deep enough to cover the holes. My family thinks I am over the top with this newest inovation but are kind enough not to laugh out loud!

    #10112
    Birderbirder
    Member

    cleaning will not do the trick according to Dr. Daley of Natl. Jewish and the other doctor who were both on TV interviews about this. they said it would be not be able to get to all the inner nooks and crannies? my husband unscrewed my shower head and soaked it in bleach, but only until we found the ones we bought today. i thought cleaning would be enough also, but guess not.

    #10113
    PipsqueakPipsqueak
    Member

    I don’t think bleach kills NTM anyway.

    #10114
    Atwitsendatwitsend
    Member

    I do think peroxide does and that putting a bag over the shower head sounds like it could do a lot to help. I had a spray bottle of peroxide and I sprayed mine but putting it into a plastic bag filled with peroxide sounds like a much better way. -Chris

    #10115
    HelenGHelenG
    Member

    Chris – where did you read that peroxide would kill the MAC? Just curious.

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